David "PiperFan" Johnson  10-19-2021
04:04 UT
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Transition to H_Beam_Piper@simplelists.com
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Apologies if I've not gotten this correct in your particular case. Let
me know if I can help to get messages delivered as you would like to
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There are still a few details I'm working
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I'll keep this list up for now but please start posting your Piper content to the new list from here on out.
Thanks,
David
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David Sooby 10-18-2021
22:48 UT
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I'll second what Tim said!
Thank you very much, David, for
maintaining this list. It's great that there is still a forum for
discussion of Piper's works in a real internet forum context, rather
than using FaceBook, which unfortunately so many discussion groups have
migrated to. The format of FB encourages quick "sound bite" type posts,
and discourages more thoughtful, longer posts; and it is not set up to
easily scroll back to see what was posted more than just a few days ago.
(There are other, much more important reasons for avoiding use of FaceBook, but I won't climb up on that soapbox here.)
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Tim Tow 10-18-2021
05:51 UT
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Thanks for maintaining this list and now migrating it to a new location. Appreciate it.
Regarding
the covers, the cover illos are pretty aligned with the stories. The
Ace Paperbacks were notably good with the covers for the Piper
collection. Nowadays I find a lot of the cover illos a bit over the top
and in some only loosely tied to the stories.
Definitely the
covers were selling tools in the past especially for magazines, probably
a bit less so especially for named book authors who get away with just
plain text on covers a lot of the time.
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David "PiperFan" Johnson 10-18-2021
02:48 UT
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Piper Mailing List and Discussion Forum Will be MOVING!
Just
received news this evening that QuickTopic, the provider of our our
mailing list, is ceasing operations in December. (I have no details
about the circumstances which have led to this decision, not that they
matter particularly.)
I'll be looking to identify a new provider
prior to Nov. 27th, the date when new messages will no longer be able to
be posted to the mailing list. Archived messages will remain available
at QuickTopic until Dec. 11th.
I have a separate archive that
I've been maintaining manually at Zarthani.net which currently has all
past messages through the end of last year:
http://www.zarthani.net/h_beam_piper-forum_archive.htm
I'll work to ensure that all 2021 messages are captured here too.
No
effort is required on your part for the shut-down but do watch your
inbox for details on how to join us at the new location. (Any
suggestions on a good place to move to would be appreciated.)
It's
my intention that we bring along everyone currently participating here
to the new location (if you continue to be interested). My apologies in
advance to anyone who may get lost in the shuffle. If you find yourself
in early 2022 wondering what happened to the Piper mailing list please
don't hesitate to contact me directly at Zarthani.net and I will do my
best to help you return to the fold.
Cheers,
David
--
"Good things in the long run are often tough while they're happening." - Otto Harkaman (H. Beam Piper), ~Space Viking~
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David "PiperFan" Johnson 10-18-2021
02:32 UT
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Jon Crocker wrote:
> I do think the "Omnilingual" cover is the best Piper cover,
> but that's after reading the story.
Yes,
Freas's illustration is wonderful, both the way it presents Martha
Dane--it was rare to see a woman on an ~Astounding~ cover; and her two
layers of clothing made her stand-out as compared to most women on
sci-fi pulps of that era--and because of the way it portrays the
not-quite-human Martians in the mural in the background.
> Which one would grab someone, looking at all the
> magazines on the rack? I think they tried all the angles
> with the samples shown.
I
have a large print of Schoenherr's cover for (the first instalment of)
~Space Viking~ hanging on my wall but I have to admit it is perhaps not
the most striking illustration. (Part of what I like about it also comes
from reading about the spherical starships in the story.)
I
think perhaps the most striking illustration of a Piper yarn is
Schoenherr's ~Analog~ cover for (the first instalment of) ~Lord Kalvan
of Otherwhen~ (i.e. "Gunpowder God"). Freas's cover illustration for the
second instalment--"Down Styphon!"--is also pretty cool but, again,
hard to make sense of until you've read the story.
Cheers,
David
--
"There
ain't no pictures in it; nothing but print. It's a Literate book." --
Olaf Olafsson (H. Beam Piper & John J. McGuire), ~Null-ABC~
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Jon Crocker 10-17-2021
14:06 UT
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I do think the "Omnilingual" cover is the best Piper cover, but that's
after reading the story. Which one would grab someone, looking at all
the magazines on the rack? I think they tried all the angles with the
samples shown.
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David "PiperFan" Johnson 10-17-2021
03:48 UT
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Screen capture: "Day of the Moron" from ~The Box~ (2009)
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Tim Tow 10-14-2021
16:54 UT
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This is great. I always wanted to see the original presentations.
Regarding Day of the Moron, that cover and issue was shown and even the
title mentioned in the 2009 film, The Box, which is based on the Richard
Matheson story, Button, Button, which also was a Twilight Zone episode.
I always wondered if the Day of the Moron placement and reference was a subtle nod to H. Beam Piper.
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David "PiperFan" Johnson 10-14-2021
01:34 UT
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Jon Crocker wrote:
> The "unrelated cover illustrations" seem to run the
> gamut - on the one hand, I'm kind of curious if there
> was in fact a story about a fish-lady stealing a radio
> set from the guy in the deep-sea diving gear. On the
> other, I wonder if the guy who wrote the later "Silver
> Surfer" ever saw that "Amazing" cover with the ladies
> in yellow on the galactic surfboards.
Definitely some fascinating art in ~Astounding~ (and ~Analog~) "back in the day."
It's
interesting too to see when there was cover art commissioned to
illustrate Beam's yarns. "Last Enemy" is great, "Time Crime" is
remarkably subtle and clever, and the cover illustration for "Day of the
Moron" is the best thing about that sad yarn.
One of the cool
things about these pulps being posted online is that we get to see the
~interior~ illustrations too. (I have some of those up at Zarthani.net
but there are others here I've yet to get to.)
Remember Ashmodai! Remember Belphegor!
David
--
"They
were turning into the main hallway, between the rows of portraits of
past emperors, Paul and Rodrik, Paul and Rodrik, alternating over and
over on both walls." — H Beam Piper, "Ministry of Disturbance"
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Jon Crocker 10-12-2021
04:37 UT
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Thanks for posting those! The "unrelated cover illustrations" seem to
run the gamut - on the one hand, I'm kind of curious if there was in
fact a story about a fish-lady stealing a radio set from the guy in the
deep-sea diving gear. On the other, I wonder if the guy who wrote the
later "Silver Surfer" ever saw that "Amazing" cover with the ladies in
yellow on the galactic surfboards.
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David "PiperFan" Johnson 10-11-2021
03:46 UT
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New Piper Originals at Zarthani.net!
I've just added links
for electronic versions of all of Piper's work originally published in
either ~Astounding~ or ~Analog~, included in each case within the entire
issue of original publication, to the "First Publications"
bibliography:
http://www.zarthani.net/h_beam_piper_bibliography.htm
This
includes not only originals like the serializations of ~Time Crime~,
~Null-ABC~ and ~Space Viking~ but also the first two parts of ~Lord
Kalvan of Otherwhen~--"Gunpowder God" and "Down Styphon!"--originally
published in ~Analog~.
Wonderful to see the original text with the original illustrations (when there were any) in place.
Bonne journée,
David
--
"Do
you know which books to study, and which ones not to bother with? Or
which ones to read first, so that what you read in the others will be
comprehensible to you? That's what they'll give you [at university].
The tools, which you don't have now, for educating yourself." - Bish
Ware (H. Beam Piper), ~Four-Day Planet~
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