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Tim Tow
01-26-2009
02:20 UT
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I've just started reading James White's The Dream Millenium. James White
is most known for this Sector General series about an interstellar
hospital. This appears to be a stand-alone book and not related to
Sector General.
The backstory of The Dream Millenium depicts an
Earth society where personal dueling has been taken to an extreme. It
appears to be the opposite of Piper's Planet for Texans.
Just wondering if others have read this and offer their insights.
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David Johnson
01-14-2009
15:11 UT
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Mike Robertson wrote:
> One of the great things about this list is learning about
> authors that I hadn't noticed before.
To
be fair, I have to give credit to Amazon's "recommendation" robot for
making me aware of Hemry's/Campbell's "Lost Fleet" novels. Seeing as
the bulk of the other science-fiction works it has to go on to make
recommendations for me are Beam's novels and collections (and related
items like John's Kalvan sequels), Amazon must be doing something
right.
David
--
"Do you know which books to study, and
which ones not to bother with? Or which ones to read first, so that
what you read in the others will be comprehensible to you? That's what
they'll give you [at
university] on Terra. The tools, which you don't have now, for
educating yourself." - Bish Ware (H. Beam Piper), _Four-Day_Planet_
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Mike Robertson
01-13-2009
15:35 UT
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One of the great things about this list is learning about authors that I hadn't noticed before.
Mike Robertson
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David "PiperFan" Johnson  01-13-2009
12:38 UT
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Here's a better link to the Hemry interview.
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David Johnson
01-13-2009
03:23 UT
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A sequel to Piper's Space Viking and Cosmic Computer?
Check out this interview with John G. Hemry:
http://focusonsff.blogspot.com/2008/01/johnjack-campbell-hemry-
interview.html
He lists Beam as one of his influences and also says he's
"considering trying to get approval to do a sequel to Piper's Space Viking and Cosmic Computer novels"!
I've been listening to Audible versions of his "Lost Fleet" books:
http://www.johnghemry.com/
Great stuff!
David
--
"Naturally.
Foxx Travis would expect a soul to be carried in a holster." - Miles
Gilbert (H. Beam Piper), "Oomphel in the Sky"
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David Johnson
01-03-2009
22:09 UT
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John F. Carr's Piper Anthologies
For some time I've wanted
to put together a page dedicated to the Piper anthologies John edited
for Ace back in the early 1980s--the books which first introduced me
to Beam's short fiction. Well, I've finally done it:
http://www.zarthani.net/carranths.htm
It
includes links to the text of each story at Project Gutenberg and,
when available, a link to the original pulp publication for sale at
Amazon.
David
--
"_Space_Viking_ itself is . . . a yarn
that will be cited, years hence, as one of the science-fiction
classics. It's got solid
philosophy for the mature thinker, and
bang-bang-chop-'em-up action for the space-pirate fans. As a truly
good yarn should have!" - John W. Campbell, 1962
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Wolf
01-03-2009
14:40 UT
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I think it was in the Fuzzy series. I am paraphrasing, of course, and I
think it was mentioned more than once. I would check books 2 & 3.
Jack
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Lensman
01-03-2009
14:29 UT
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QT - Wolf wrote:
> "People shouldn't be shot for committing crimes. They should be
> shot for being the kind of people who commit them."
I've been looking for that Piper quote! What is the source?
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Clear ether!
Lensman
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Otherwhen@aol.com
01-03-2009
07:52 UT
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Hi Jack,
In answer to your question regarding "The Fireseed
Wars." The book is almost finished; I've spent most of the last year
re-writing, editing and working on continuity. (Having my computer
crash right after I finished the first draft, did not help!) I will
mail it out to my copyeditors in about 2 weeks -- I'm that close to
the end. The plan is to get it to the typesetters by late
February/early March. Depending upon how fast they take to typeset it,
the book should be out sometime in the summer of 2009.
I've
been working on this book for 4 years; it runs 182,000 (851 manuscript
pages) words and will take Kalvan & Company into some new and
very interesting places. The last two books were easier to write
because I was working from the original "Gunpowder God" manuscript and
I knew how it was going to end. Also, the more books a series runs,
the more you run into the Herbert (Dune) Problem, i.e., continuity
issues. I spent over a year working out a 60 page outline for the
next couple of books, only to find that I veered into new territory
after following the first 4 or 5 pages!
I discovered
that I hadn't completely thought-out what Kalvan would do with the
quarter of a million refugees who tagged along with him to escape the
Grand Host of Styphon's House and Archpriest Roxthar's Investigation of
Hos-Hostigos... The most believable response to that question caused
me to completely re-do the book I had outlined, and I think it will
be a better (more realistic) book for all that. And, it was more
interesting to me, because I wrote most of "The Fireseed Wars" without
knowing where it hell it was headed...
John Carr
John,
I personally look forward to reading the deleted material. I
also can't help asking how much longer before The Fireseed Wars
is out. I imagine rewrites, editing, and still more revisions
to address the edits would take some time.
Jack
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Wolf
01-03-2009
04:11 UT
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John,
I personally look forward to reading the deleted material.
I also can't help asking how much longer before The Fireseed Wars is
out. I imagine rewrites, editing, and still more revisions to address
the edits would take some time.
Jack
"People shouldn't be shot for committing crimes. They should be shot for being the kind of people who commit them."
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Otherwhen@aol.com
01-03-2009
02:53 UT
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Finally, an Amazon review! And a good one at that, thanks David.
I
would like to address your one criticism, that being that "this
reviewer often found himself wanting Carr to add more analysis of
these observations himself, giving the reader better advantage of
Carr's own insights gained through a lifetime of study of Piper and
his work."
First, I was determined to include as much of
Beam's own letters/diary entries as I could, as well as much primary
source material as possible, especially reminiscences from those who
knew Beam, in my Piper biography.
Secondly, the original draft
was 154,000 words, which did not include any appendices. McFarland
wanted me to cut the book down to around 100,000 to 110,000 words! To
do this, I had to cut around 8 to 10 chapters and a lot of supporting
material, including a lot of my own analyses. To make matters worse,
after I cut 45,000 words, I came up with another 20,000 words of new
material that I believed I had to include.
This brought
the final manuscript that I presented to McFarland up to around
132,000 words, not including the appendices (about 15,000 words) which I
just "threw in." I figured a scholarly press such as McFarland
couldn't resist appendices -- I was right. They balked at first, but
kept the longer manuscript I submitted. They did not make any cuts,
but did reduce the type (to make up for the unexpected length) to a
ridiculous point size...
I was even able to "convince" them to use
the Alan Gutierrez painting we worked out together, i.e., I came up
with the idea (Piper as Verkan Vall sitting at his horseshoe desk in
the Paratime Building in front of his curio case) and Alan, of course,
did all the rendering, for the book cover.
If I can find the
time, I would like (as soon as I finish the continuity re-write of
"The Fireseed Wars") to add some of this deleted material to the Piper
website.
Still, 45,000 words were cut from the book.
Overall, I'm happy with it. In another 10 or 15 years, I may well do a
"new" edition from Pequod Press, with the original title ("The Last
Cavalier: H. Beam Piper), which would include most of the material I
had to cut and any new stuff I've been able to compile.
John Carr
H. Beam Piper: A Biography by John F. Carr
I've just posted my review of John's biography at Amazon.com.
David
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